This legendary conflict brought together traditional 'bandido' figures and the first generation of Western military technology. The Mexican Revolution (1910-19) was the first seismic social convulsion of the twentieth century, superseded in historical importance only by the Russian and Chinese revolutions. Two flics that got me all stirred up for the border era; The Wild Bunch and The Professionals…. Apart from the guerrilla operations, for which the Revolution is best-known, it also covers several major battles that involved up to 20,000 men on each side, barbed wire, trenches and machine guns. and i’m keeping your horse for being pretty and obedient. The Mexican Revolution of 1910-1920 has tripped my trigger ever since I read enraptured Clifford Irving’s wonderful novel “Tom Mix and Pancho Villa.” That’s a long time now. Above: Mexican Revolution insurrectionists, Juarez 1911. A shot from early in the Mexican Revolution showing what looks like a Winchester lever action rifle — probably an 1894 in .30-30 — in Villa’s saddle scabbard. The Mexican Revolution remains the largest conflict in Mexican history. But in addition to unpopular policies, enriched families controlled political power. The handle dropped straight down as befits a target-shooting piece, unlike the plough handle of the Peacemaker, and it had a low-slung and broad hammer. Even hunting rifle rounds saw use, including Winchester’s popular .38-56 Winchester (designed for the 1886 Winchester) and its Model 1894’s .30-30 WCF. I’m inclined to think it was a Winchester 1894 in .30-30 caliber, which was kind of the AK-47 of the revolution. Weapons: Small Arms: “Military revolvers and semi-automatic pistols used during the Mexican Revolution included a large number of Smith & Wesson revolvers in original and foreign copy forms purchased by the Mexican government in the 1870s. It would have been a second-tier rifle for Revolutionary forces, but very common. The music — from border corridos to Ragtime, early jazz and the beginnings of the blues. Done in spanish with subs, by some obviously noteable Villa historians. Mexicans are Native Americans . As such, I doubt they were used on cheap imported pistols, more likely they sported cheap gaudy imitations. These traditional hatchets were often made of stone and wood and could be used for a variety of purposes. I’ve seen many photos from la Revolucion showing rebels carrying the Winchester 1895, an unusual variant that had a box magazine in front of the trigger instead of a tubular magazine beneath the barrel like most Winchesters. Villa’s revolver was customized with fancy mother-of-pearl grips. Villa was touched by the love man and horse had and just rode away . Winchester’s first semi-automatic rifle the M-1905 and later the M-1907 made their introduction and were quite popular as well. Introduction to the Podcast, “(Francisco) Villa had the reputation of being one of Mexico’s greatest gunfighters. His last act as he drove his Dodge motorcar into an ambush and the bullets from multiple rifles tore into him was to reach for his constant companion — that 1912 Bisley Colt. The other one was named Jose Maria who’s family was pretty poor, but they supported themselves by killing for money. I have bartered and traded a guy for a poncho villa Bowie knife it’s ok but it wasn’t taken care of by people anyhow it hasbponcho villa etched on one side bold letters and around the name it has double line square around it now the other side has a man sitting close to cactus that’s close to the handle it also has 3 or 4 birds and a few like 3 or 4 little plants and a sun all living things on knife appears that person is watching the sun go down and the birds appear to be flying off towards the sun going and on both end it has a half circle on it just wondering if I actually have one of the rare ones or a knock off help lol. It was so widely used that a corrido was written about it: “Carabina .30-30.” (Watch Los Lobos perform it on Austin City Limits). But i know enough that his song makes me cry a little. The Bisley was a target variant of the famous Colt Peacemaker, named for the Bisley shooting sports complex in England. Well, as you say, he did live by the gun. giving him the life his horse died for. WEAPONS OF THE REVOLUTION. NOT sure , but this is where Patton thought of mounting machine guns to vehicles. Yes, Viva Villa! There are a total of [ 78 ] Mexico Small Arms List (Current and Former Types) entries in the Military Factory. NOTE: this allows the FP website to set a cookie to display a message that "your comment is awaiting moderation." INDIANS . As we reported earlier, Mexico is in the throes of a revolution. The initial goal of the Mexican Revolution was simply the overthrow of the Díaz dictatorship, but that relatively simple political movement broadened into a major economic and social upheaval that presaged the fundamental character of Mexico’s 20th-century experience. Right after I got out of the army I bought a Bisley, converted to .357 by Christie Gun Works, that had genuine ivory grips. You can count on more. Model of 1903 and finally the .30 cal. That’s his secretary Manuel Trillo hanging out of the Dodge. The period between 1876 and 1911 was characterized by the dictatorship of Porfirio Diaz. Thousands of so-called “vigilantes” have taken control of areas of extreme lawlessness, rejecting the federal government’s “protection.” The Mexican citizen militia – for that is what it is – have armed themselves with whatever comes to hand. Most fired the .30-.40 Krag – the US military round of the time. That M-1895 was quite a rifle. Ivory on the other hand is both rare, expensive and subject to shrink cracking. they get caught by villas men and because he had a gun he was considered a combatant. Villa was known to be highly skilled with his firearms and he practiced regularly. The Mexican Revolution and its aftermath, 1910–40. My next oldest revolver is a S&W Military & Police that shipped in 1949 with awesome pearl grips, …. Just found it today. Free Online Library: Guns of the Mexican Revolution: you may think of the Frito Bandito or sepia images from your local taco stand, but civil war in Mexico was real war with machine guns, artillery and mass killing. Villa was the law.. where as Patton had to follow orders and unceremoniously got spanked by his superiors who needed him but knew he was a loose cannon at times ( needed like in battle of the bulge to only mention one). BTW, Villa was severely wounded during the Punitive Expedition by a round from a Remington, during a firefight with Federales. During Mexico’s Revolution of 1910, the rebel forces fought for their freedom with a vast variety of firearms that ran the gamut from blackpowder muzzleloaders and single-shot cartridge rifles to then modern lever-action and bolt-action repeaters-even machine guns. It has a badge: SPRR on the stock. That hole in the wallet can steer a man wrong. Pancho Villa’s .44-40 Bisley Colt, part of the magnificent Autry National Center Collection. A song title or short story/novel’s opening line waiting to happen. It’s a Remington Rolling Block 7mm. Enjoyed the post. The pistol came with hard rubber grips. Different horse, different rifle. Might have gotten something wrong. The bullet entered the rear of his leg and exited his shin, causing a horrifically painful wound. The Intelligence Community today draws wisdom and inspiration from the past. PJ Pretorius was poaching back the value of his confiscated African farm from the Germans at the same time Pancho Villa was crossing the Rio Grande to overthrow the Usurper Victoriano Huerta. Clifford Irving’s wonderful novel “Tom Mix and Pancho Villa.”, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVWcgOcvgV0, https://archive.org/details/insurgentmexico00reedgoog, The Frontier Partisan World Of George MacDonald Fraser, Podcast Episode 2 — Kit Carson, Mountain Man, Working The Trapline — December 2020 — Song Of The Northmen. Entries are listed by initial year of service descending. During Mexico’s Revolution of 1910, the rebel forces fought for their freedom with a vast variety of firearms that ran the gamut from blackpowder muzzleloaders and single-shot cartridge rifles to then modern lever-action and bolt-action repeaters-even machine guns. Even during his three peaceful years of retirement at a hacienda in Durango, he was never without a pistol holstered on his hip and a rifle in his hand or on his saddle. In 30 years of centralism, the legislative and judicial powers were submitted to the executive branch. Required fields are marked *. Glade Fawson Riverton, Utah My…. Maybe a Winchester 1892? Villa seems to have carried several different rifles during his career. A tomahawk, or war club, was the favorite weapon of the Native Americans during the revolutionary war. By Philip S. Jowett, A.M. De Quesada, and Stephen Walsh. -Hierro Vaquero. get them and bring back my horse. Back in those great days, shooting championships were major sporting events. I’ve never seen or heard of any evidence that he ever used a shotgun. This is called genocide, land grabbing ! I’ve always been fascinated with this particular point in history especially after hearing some stories from my father about the particular part of Mexico that he came from, which is also in Durango where Pancho Villa was also from! Ammunition ranged from the smallest chamberings, such as .22 rimfires and .38 Short, to the most powerful military rounds of the era. Many in the harsh conditions of the southwest thought the closed-top, side ejecting Marlins were superior to the open top Winchesters. Anyway, The Bisley was introduced in 1894. After a couple of years, I noticed something was carved into the stock, hardly readable. The beginning of the Mexican War coincided with a shift in the U.S. Army from the flintlock firing system to the much more reliable percussion cap, or "cap-lock" ignition system. As a history buff with a small revolver collection I had to throw in my 2 cents regarding pearl verses ivory stocks. Dark as this history is, I revel in it. As an American I appreciate that. Another breed of firearm that was oft used in the Revolución was the single-shot Remington Rolling Block rifle. The following article is the third in a series showcasing exceptional intelligence stories from history. Phil Spangenberger has written for Guns & Ammo, appears on the History Channel and other documentary networks, produces Wild West shows, is a Hollywood gun coach and character actor, and is True West’s Firearms Editor. Good catch — as usual. but both historical actors and both played their part. I hope your not trying to disrespect the great general Doroteo “panco villa” Arango patton was not worthy to comment on such a man was not to his level Patton was an order follower with no morals!!! Villa’s revolver was manufactured in 1912, in caliber .44-40. Generally speaking, virtually any arm produced up through the time of the revolt could have been used. Regardless of whether they served with Pancho Villa in the north, Emiliano Zapata in the south or any of a number of other guerrilla bands, these men, women and children were largely made up of vaqueros, farmers, city workers and rural peons, who utilized whatever weapons they could scrounge up. Thanks for stopping by Señor Vaquero. Porfirio Díaz first made a … Appreciate the insights. This one has a crescent butt. Flintlock muskets were temperamental weapons and often failed to discharge. From blades to bullets, learn about the weapons that stretched America’s borders to the Pacific Ocean, fueled America’s arrival on … There is a great song (about villa ) called Caballo Prieto Azabache by antonio aguilar. Flag images indicative of country of origin and not necessarily primary operator. villa said. Good stuff, Tex. Alas, I sold it when I needed to raise money. Even after the revolution ended Durango still had this Wild West feel to it, my dad told me that people still carried handguns usually a Colt.38 or a .32 or maybe a .22, the ones with more money to spare would buy a .45, and Mausers were still pretty popular as well. It was captured from P villa by Patch Logan. Wish I knew more about the multitude of Winchester Models. Hello Friends, i am developing this new singleplayer custom campaing based on the Mexican Revolution, a civil war that took place in Mexico from the years 1910-1917. That’s who Lee Marvin was trying to be in The Professionals. Bear in mind that the Villistas, at the height of the Division del Norte’s powers, traveled by train. JimC, Thanks for a great article! so i will mercifully end it. A spare propeller can be seen lashed to the side of the aircraft, below the cockpits; one-half right rear view, close up, of aircraft. Model of 1906 (30/06) Carried by the Texas Rangers during the Texas border wars. A favorite rifle on the boarder during the Mexican revolution was a special order Winchester Model 1894 rifle with 20″ octagonal barrel. An arrowhead, as they say in songwriter school…. The train was robbed by P Villa and he escaped to Mexico. For reasons that I’ll reveal when the time is right, the Mex Rev and particularly the career of Pancho Villa have been pushed to the forefront in the land of the Frontier Partisans lately. https://archive.org/details/insurgentmexico00reedgoog. The Mexican Revolution is not as well catered for as it should be given the multiple factions and variety of combat styles on display. Have to agree with the man — ivory all the way. Ladies love Outlaws Mother of Pearl (or nacre) is pretty tough and neither rare nor all that expensive. If you do not check this box, your comment will be received and await moderation nonetheless. I would say it is suitable for daily carry or heavy range use. Remote-control aircraft. As the U.S. government became discontented with the Diaz regime, the Mexican army began to … I contend that the rifle/carbine that inspired the corrido “Carabina 30-30” was the Marlin 1893, not the Winchester 94. (PART ONE - THE RIFLES) by "Shotgun News"; Sport, sporting goods and toys industry Firearms Design and construction History It’s impossible to tell what model it is. They were all pretty much the same from the breech back. His government was supported by the Mexican aristocracy and foreign capitals. More post about La Revolucion, por favor! Soak up all you can find about Emil Holmdahl. According to my dad he looked like a Native American and he used to make clothing out of hide and he used to make furniture too. Nuclear weapons, an Islamic Revolution The ayatollah regime, focused on maintaining and spreading Islamic rule, cannot give up its nuclear program … Sigh. The Mexican Revolution 1910-20. Tierra y Libertad (Land and Liberty) was the watchword of the revolutionaries who fought a … Collectors call them “Border” rifles. The Winchester M 1895 Carbine was also a popular rifle that fired the current US Government Round. Don’t know enough about the various Winchester models of the day.). Return often. Got me fishing. Excellent points, all. So much was happening. Found a picture of Villa shooting the Bisley in a book titled “The Face of Pancho Villa”. Maybe John Maddox Roberts knows more? Check out the magazine article “¡Viva la 30-30!” in the 2017 annual edition of GUNS magazine’s Surplus, Vintage & Classic Firearms for more details. Popular in Mexico and the Southwest. So the rifle is probably a .30-30. Most writers seem to think the only lever actions were Winchesters. Alongside these, wired and wireless communications, barbed wire, searchlights, and trenches established their place on the battlefield in the Mexican Revolution. One of the stories that my dad told me about him is that Jose Maria once walked into a wedding, killed the groom with a knife, wiped the blood of the knife with the bride’s veil and walked away. There were 10 … Beginning with the .30 Army (30/40 Krag), .30 cal. The Adventurers, Rangers and Scouts Who Fought the Battles of Empire. believed to be men of the US Army 1st Aero Squadron preparing for a flight from Columbus, New Mexico, to General John J. Pershing's Mexican Expedition camp at Colonia Dublan, Chihuahua, Mexico, circa mid to late 1916. He was just a spark of what he was to become in those days. Thanks for stopping by the campfire Tom. The Spanish–American War was a conflict in 1898 between Spain and the United States, effectively the result of American intervention in the ongoing Cuban War of Independence . This article focuses on how President Woodrow Wilson gathered and used intelligence during the Mexican Revolution. well, lots of smile weapon as the Boer war and the Russia-Japan war. The differences can be subtle. Collectors call them “Border” rifles. The Mexican Revolution was the first major social revolution of the 20th century. In those days, Mexico was often called a machine gun seller’s paradise, and the Revolutionary era government used a variety of the automatic weapons, mostly the 1896 Hotchkiss gun in 7mm, later, the 7mm Browning model 1919, the 7mm Colt Automatic Gun “Potato Digger” of 1895, plus the Model 1911 Madsen machine gun. Although I like ivory too especially after it ages, I much prefer the coolness of pearl. Your blog, muy bien! They’re capturing firearms from the cartels, police […] They grew from a handful of vaqueros, working class townspeople and rural peasants to become a colorful, formidable and victorious fighting force that lived off the land, eluded its enemies with regularity and waged war to the cries of  “Viva Villa!,” “Viva Zapata” and “Viva la Revolución!”, “Para una madre, no hay mal hijo.” (To a mother, a bad son does not…, The American cowboy owes so much to the master horsemen—Mexican vaqueros—who were rounding up cattle…, Why did some vaquero saddles have dinner plate-type saddle horns? VILLA TALKED THE TALK AND WALKED THE WALK. I also can mention that some real weapons used at this period will be present just as the real uniforms and colors that used the mexican army. I have a Colt SAA with ivory grips in the first barrel length and caliber, 7.5″ & .45 Colt, that came out in 1873. Villa’s primary sidearm — the one that was “part of his person” — was a Bisley Colt. Of course, Pancho might have borrowed the bandoliers from a companero for the picture. This is a list of weapons of the Spanish–American War. And finish that novel. Like babies love stray dogs it is about a man and his horse. What era(s) does your collection cover? you have one wish before you get shot. Later ones fired the .30-06. On the down side they chip easily, but if you pick up both at the same room temperature, one feels very cool, the other very warm. My grandfather “Chico” Jones farmed around Ciudad Juarez and reportedly met and traded with Pancho Villa! Keep plugging’ away Pat. Hats off to both and to all of us who keep them alive in History. The original 94 winchester offering. Be sure to include Gen. Patton and how his experience helped him become a better soldier. The Mexican Revolution (Spanish: Revolución Mexicana) was a major revolution, including a sequence of armed struggles, lasting roughly from 1910 to 1920, that transformed Mexican culture and government.Its outbreak in 1910 resulted from the increasing unpopularity of the 31-year-long regime of Porfirio Díaz and the regime's failure to find a controlled solution to presidential succession. But to compare patton with villa is like to compare a chef to a cook. When one considers the various forces involved in this bloody revolt—the numerous bands of guerrilla fighters, the Mexican Federal commands of a string of presidentes, as well as the U.S. Army during the Punitive Expedition of 1916—it’s no wonder that such a wide array of arms were used during this period. Ol’ George RR Martin couldn’t be any crueler to his characters than the real-deal Revolution was to its principals. (Courtesy of David Squiers.) (PART TWO - PISTOLS AND MACHINE GUNS) by "Shotgun News"; Sport, sporting goods and toys industry Firearms Design and construction History Usage Concerning the pearl grips: in the Autry museum and in the Buffalo Bill museum in Cody, WY, there are several guns known to have been carried by noted lawmen and outlaws that sport pearl grips. the horse knew and once on.. the horse took off to save his friend. Villa was gunned down in an ambush on the streets of Parral in 1923. During the" Porfiriato ", As it was known to the Government, democracy and sovereignty existed only in the Magna Carta. Real or not the fact that there were stories about the guy like that says something about him. Pat: Read Not of War Only, also Glendon Swarthout’s They Came to Cordura and